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at u.s. trust, our expertise extends well beyond investment advice and research analysis. it includes proprietary offerings like our eldercare program, which helps provide for those who came before you. and our financial empowerment program, which helps prepare those who come next. resources like these have made us the number-one trust company. that's why generations of families have come to us to help build their own legacies. >>> we don't want you to bet the country. we want you to fix the country. and we had a number of productive meetings in the past couple days. the white house with the leadership of both the senate and the house, diverse groups of house members -- >> that is maya mcginnis, who i almost always want to call maya angelou for some reason. but it is not. it is maya mcginnis, one of the organizers of fix the debt, the campaign that's organized some 60 ceos, heads of non-profits, academics and others to come up on capitol hill today to talk about solutions to the fiscal cliff problem. i'm joined now by john carney of cnbc.com, bob pisani. we'll listen in as
at u.s. trust, our expertise extends well beyond investment advice and research analysis. it includes proprietary offerings like our eldercare program, which helps provide for those who came before you. and our financial empowerment program, which helps prepare those who come next. resources like these have made us the number-one trust company. that's why generations of families have come to us to help build their own legacies. >>> we don't want you to bet the country. we want you to...
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if you think the u.s. is going to default there are several other countries that are first in line. >> last time we had the downgrade you saw the s&p fall off a cliff. it fell off before it. >> everybody knows that. everybody is expecting it. it is already in there. and especially since you have japan with the issues. people are looking for safe assets. china and japan are no longer buying. there is definitely demand. i'm not saying that they go to half a percent. i would be concerned about the fiscal cliff. >> and the feds shown that they have a lot of demand. >> whether it is deal or no deal let's bing in chief economist and strategist. good to see you. >> thanks for having me on. >> it is hard to believe there is a fiscal cliff proof portfolio but you have somehow put it together. part of that is dividend growth. >> it's the past tax shifts at a lingering impact. there could be a pack. what matters the most is what the fed is going to do. if the fed is going to keep interest rates close to zero for at l
if you think the u.s. is going to default there are several other countries that are first in line. >> last time we had the downgrade you saw the s&p fall off a cliff. it fell off before it. >> everybody knows that. everybody is expecting it. it is already in there. and especially since you have japan with the issues. people are looking for safe assets. china and japan are no longer buying. there is definitely demand. i'm not saying that they go to half a percent. i would be...
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basically, what we've seen is u.s. trial lawyers have gone to a foreign government, and they have bribed judges, they have blackmailed judges, they have ghost written expert opinions, they've ghost written court judgments. in our view, they've violated numerous laws, both in ecuador and the united states. all of it is available on videotape depositions and in e-mails because the crime fraud exception has been invoked by numerous judges in the united states. our strategy is to fight it, fight it hard. we feel we'll prevail in the end. >> i know this is a significant case, however, this is also sort of the normal for the industry, isn't it? this is the uphill battle you're fighting all the time, this hostility. >> rule of law, i would say, is the biggest risk not just to our industry but business in general. the world is becoming much more international and interconnected. it's very important that we have laws and norms that are functioning. so companies like ours and others can have a predictable and successful business
basically, what we've seen is u.s. trial lawyers have gone to a foreign government, and they have bribed judges, they have blackmailed judges, they have ghost written expert opinions, they've ghost written court judgments. in our view, they've violated numerous laws, both in ecuador and the united states. all of it is available on videotape depositions and in e-mails because the crime fraud exception has been invoked by numerous judges in the united states. our strategy is to fight it, fight it...
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but we're lumping in u.s. treasury money funds, u.s. government agency money funds, muni money funds. are we going to say they're subject to credit loss also? we have to get more specific about these major policy changes rather than throwing a blanket over an entire industry. >> great point. we're going to leave it there. you're betting on whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff this year. what do you think? >> i'm worried. >> you're frworried. >> i don't see the leadership at this point in time i'm hoping to see from the white house. >> walt, great to have you on the program. really appreciate it. walter is the president and ceo of the charles schwab corporation. >>> meanwhile, the honeywell ceo was at that fiscal cliff meeting with president obama today. it just wrapped up. he joins us now for a first-on cnbc interview from the white house. david, good to have you on the program. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks. good to be here. >> okay. so leading up to this meeting with the president, you were skeptiabou seeing a deal
but we're lumping in u.s. treasury money funds, u.s. government agency money funds, muni money funds. are we going to say they're subject to credit loss also? we have to get more specific about these major policy changes rather than throwing a blanket over an entire industry. >> great point. we're going to leave it there. you're betting on whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff this year. what do you think? >> i'm worried. >> you're frworried. >> i don't see the...
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our understanding is the category is around $7 billion in the u.s. alone on energy crindr. the shot market will be $2 billion. it's been growing between 20% and 25% per annum. >> are you making money? you have celebrity endorsers. are they paid? >> my partner curtis "50 cent" jackson put his money where his mouth is. he and i put a lot of dollars on the table and invested in it. the nice thing is celebrities have either got on board because they believe in the cause around feeding a child with every one we sell. they also like the energy hit because it is more natural and it works. >> very diverse group of celebrities here. whether sex, age or whatnot. joan rivers to d.j. pauly d. >> it goes back to when you have a platform where it's around feeding kids in need. that's working for us well. >> right. >> as a platform the other thing is the more the product has got more, you know, less of the bad stuff and more environment oriented. >> monster beverage was the hot thing and the stock was called hanson natural. a lot of people said coca-cola should buy them. are you for sale?
our understanding is the category is around $7 billion in the u.s. alone on energy crindr. the shot market will be $2 billion. it's been growing between 20% and 25% per annum. >> are you making money? you have celebrity endorsers. are they paid? >> my partner curtis "50 cent" jackson put his money where his mouth is. he and i put a lot of dollars on the table and invested in it. the nice thing is celebrities have either got on board because they believe in the cause around...
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there are parts of the u.s. economy are certainly improving, but there are other parts that have not yet felt a vice that's squeezing on them. >> all right. we got to go. the bell is going to ring shortly, i feel like. we got to go. thank you, everybody. appreciate it. we are heading toward the close and, really, the market is where it was before all the rhetoric came out on the cliff. the dow up 32 points right how it. >> we've heard some democrats made maye be willing to dive off that fiscal cliff. our next guest certainly is not following suit. find out what cuts he's willing to make. >>> another potential cost saver could be ditching the paper dollar in favor of a dollar coin. congress is considering it. could our debt literally kill the dollar bill? we'll talk about that. >>> and later on, i'll be talking exclusively to two of the nation's top ceo on how the fiscal cliff will impact their businesses. that's later on in "the closing bell." stay with us. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from
there are parts of the u.s. economy are certainly improving, but there are other parts that have not yet felt a vice that's squeezing on them. >> all right. we got to go. the bell is going to ring shortly, i feel like. we got to go. thank you, everybody. appreciate it. we are heading toward the close and, really, the market is where it was before all the rhetoric came out on the cliff. the dow up 32 points right how it. >> we've heard some democrats made maye be willing to dive off...
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the idea that the u.s. alone is somehow going to solve the co2 issue is fundamentally flawed and i don't know where the president is dreaming that he will be able to solve this issue. gerri: probably on hold. robert, i know we will hear from you again soon. thank you for coming on, have a great weekend. >> thank you, gerri you want as the clock ticks, there is another group of folks tt will be hit hard. i'm talking about college savers. many families will be worse off next year compared to this year. could you explain is the founder and publisher of finaid.org. what is the fiscal cliff? is the fiscal cliff? were we going to duplicate those budget cuts? >> one is it will cut things by 8% across the board. the pell grant in 2013, it will also be cut automatically by 8%. the american opportunity tax credit expires at the end of 2012 as well. gerri: it sounds like, and here are the numbers here, it could result in a% cut in federal student aid. so clearly, people will see higher costs for college. how can they
the idea that the u.s. alone is somehow going to solve the co2 issue is fundamentally flawed and i don't know where the president is dreaming that he will be able to solve this issue. gerri: probably on hold. robert, i know we will hear from you again soon. thank you for coming on, have a great weekend. >> thank you, gerri you want as the clock ticks, there is another group of folks tt will be hit hard. i'm talking about college savers. many families will be worse off next year compared...
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guys, that's the state of the world when it comes to auto sales here in the u.s. >> that is the state of the world. we just have to watch those chinese automakers in the future as well. thank you very much, phil lebeau. >>> john harwood has some context and background on what we've been getting out of washington. we've been getting lots of headlines on the fiscal cliff. bring it all together for us, john. >> mandy, jay carney, the white house press secretary, has just been briefing reporters and indicated that the white house would veto any bill extending the rates for the top end or tax cuts for the top end earners. this is a reiteration of the position the president's held for some time. remember, after extending those rates at the end of 2010, he indicated he was not going to go beyond 2012. i think this is not a sign that he's not willing to negotiate with republicans because the key point of what the president said this afternoon was he needs more tax revenue from the top end earners, not necessarily tax rates. so this is the case of the president not surrendering his position bu
guys, that's the state of the world when it comes to auto sales here in the u.s. >> that is the state of the world. we just have to watch those chinese automakers in the future as well. thank you very much, phil lebeau. >>> john harwood has some context and background on what we've been getting out of washington. we've been getting lots of headlines on the fiscal cliff. bring it all together for us, john. >> mandy, jay carney, the white house press secretary, has just been...
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ceo mike jeffries notes, our u.s. chain store business posted healthy growth on top of strong quarter a year ago and we saw a trend improvement in international business. the question is whether it's a one-off anomaly type quarter origining of renewed strength for teen retailer. the shorts are covering and others are jumping in, too. shares up almost 27%. carl? >> what's amazing, it just gets us back to where we were a couple months ago. incredible story. >>> facebook a big mover. stock breaking previous patterns and actually jumping on its third lock-up expiration. julia has been on the phone with analysts with details about why it's different this time. >> good morning. today is the biggest lock-up expiration for facebook shares. over 80 million a0 million are e market. it it means institutional investors, former employees and investors who bought on the secondary market, and another 31 million in restricted stock units owned by employees who owned prior to 2011. the stock today is soaring for a couple of reasons. t
ceo mike jeffries notes, our u.s. chain store business posted healthy growth on top of strong quarter a year ago and we saw a trend improvement in international business. the question is whether it's a one-off anomaly type quarter origining of renewed strength for teen retailer. the shorts are covering and others are jumping in, too. shares up almost 27%. carl? >> what's amazing, it just gets us back to where we were a couple months ago. incredible story. >>> facebook a big...
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reforming our tax code, fixing our immigration system. >> u.s. oil imports have been on the decline since 2008 and new forecasts say the u.s. will rely on domestic energy output in coming years but price wills stay high because of production costs. how are industry leaders positioning themselves for the move? let's ask the ceo of devon energy who joins us from headquarters in oklahoma city. it's a pleasure to speak with you. >> nice to see you, melissa. >> we played a couple clips of president obama saying all the right things to the oil industry and americans. there is a perception in the stock market that republican presidency would have been more supportive of oil and gas production. what's the truth? where do you stand on that? >> we haven't seen the president and administration do the things that would allow us as an industry to take advantage of the wonderful resource we're sitting on in the u.s. now through this last few weeks and through the campaign he said the right things. i hope he can follow through. we can add to it from an energy p
reforming our tax code, fixing our immigration system. >> u.s. oil imports have been on the decline since 2008 and new forecasts say the u.s. will rely on domestic energy output in coming years but price wills stay high because of production costs. how are industry leaders positioning themselves for the move? let's ask the ceo of devon energy who joins us from headquarters in oklahoma city. it's a pleasure to speak with you. >> nice to see you, melissa. >> we played a couple...
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>> i'm convinced they will do. >> so when you look at the u.s. market, it has been strong, but not overly strong. what's the change in the next year, do you see that continuing? >> as opposed to the premium, like porsche, we'll have success, and there will be a discussion about this, what you mentioned before, from my point of view, most of the volume will get but not the -- >> mathias muller, a worldwide debut, there it is, the new porsche cayman, sees it first here on cnbc. >> i'm getting e-mails from people who have a cayman who say they should have waited, it's absolutely gorgeous. thank you, phil. >>> marisa meyers speaking out publicly for the first time. what did she have to say about the silicon valley internet giant. >>> and we're expecting the president to speak at any moment. let's hope it doesn't come during the commercial break. back in a second. [ male announcer ] 'tis the season to discover the kid in all of us. enjoy free shipping and great values on your holiday shopping from l.l. bean. >>> groupon making -- the company is due to
>> i'm convinced they will do. >> so when you look at the u.s. market, it has been strong, but not overly strong. what's the change in the next year, do you see that continuing? >> as opposed to the premium, like porsche, we'll have success, and there will be a discussion about this, what you mentioned before, from my point of view, most of the volume will get but not the -- >> mathias muller, a worldwide debut, there it is, the new porsche cayman, sees it first here on...
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we're also looking at the fact that oil prices here in the u.s. have basically erased this week's losses because of the gains that we're seeing currently in the oil complex. we're also hearing reports about iraqi enjoy saying that arabs should use oil to press israel over gaza. those headlines helping to cause this bid in the oil complex. in the gold market, we've seen steady declines over the last several sessions and now a little bit of stabilization in the gold market. there are concerns based on the world gold council report about demand particularly out of china. we've seen the cme lower margins for gold and silver so that may have an impact on the trading activity from here. carl, back to you at the white house. >> all right. thanks so much. in a half hour from now the president will hold key meeting with top congressional leaders on solving the fiscal cliff. we'll be over this crit aleveic event. both sides of the aisle will be covered. "squawk on the street" is coming right back. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 this morning, i'm going to trade in hon
we're also looking at the fact that oil prices here in the u.s. have basically erased this week's losses because of the gains that we're seeing currently in the oil complex. we're also hearing reports about iraqi enjoy saying that arabs should use oil to press israel over gaza. those headlines helping to cause this bid in the oil complex. in the gold market, we've seen steady declines over the last several sessions and now a little bit of stabilization in the gold market. there are concerns...
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we're confident we can sell more than all the cars in the u.s. without a shadow of a doubt. >> real quick. christmastime is the time of year when luxury seams go through the roof. why is that here in the united states? you're expecting a big december. >> we're expecting an enormous december with new cars like this and the jaguar f type getting interest as well. i think it's institutionalized. we create a big december. the martin, the lease payments and whole industry gets behind the market. from thanksgiving onwards it really generates a big car market. >> andy goss, president of jaguar and land rover in the united states. sales this year up 18% for land rover here in the u.s. this goes on sale mid-december. carl. >> all right, phil. enjoy l.a. we'll see you in a little bit. senator dick durbin a member of the boles-simpson commission and the so-called gang of eight lag out the progressive case for a bipartisan fiscal cliff deal. we'll bring you headlines as they happen. when we come back, men have a rep utation for hagting to shop. we'll tell yo
we're confident we can sell more than all the cars in the u.s. without a shadow of a doubt. >> real quick. christmastime is the time of year when luxury seams go through the roof. why is that here in the united states? you're expecting a big december. >> we're expecting an enormous december with new cars like this and the jaguar f type getting interest as well. i think it's institutionalized. we create a big december. the martin, the lease payments and whole industry gets behind the...
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i think the u.s. come to the bargain basement at the present time and with interest rates so very low, all-time record lows do you think the elimination of the mortgage deduction would have a significant impact on prices? >> i really don't. >> we have a short term impact on the lower price points. at the end of the day when we cut through all of the clutter, people need shelter, some form of shelter to that end, they can buy a home or they can rent, and i think there's people in america, whatever the price point, would prefer to rent, would prefer to purchase versus rent and i don't think they're looking first and foremost at the tax deduction as the key driver. >> ron, steve forbes here. what do you hear about how hard it is to get a mortgage, even though rates are low, and also what's happening in the jumbo mortgage market? in terms of availability of credit. >> you know, that's the real problem, if we look at what are the key issues that are really limiting housing purchases today, is the financial
i think the u.s. come to the bargain basement at the present time and with interest rates so very low, all-time record lows do you think the elimination of the mortgage deduction would have a significant impact on prices? >> i really don't. >> we have a short term impact on the lower price points. at the end of the day when we cut through all of the clutter, people need shelter, some form of shelter to that end, they can buy a home or they can rent, and i think there's people in...
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the u.s. -- a new report today says the u.s. is set to surpass saudi arabia in oil output by 2020. but is that really going to help bring prices down here at home? talk about that coming up. the answer may surprise you. >>> also ahead, lockheed martins incoming ceo, just the latest corporate leader ousted because of a sex scandal on the same day the cia chief goes down for the same reason. should both men have kept their jobs, though? we have a debate on that coming up. stay tuned. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 this morning, i'm going to trade in hong kong. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 after that, it's on to germany. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 then tonight, i'm trading 9500 miles away in japan. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with the new global account from schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i hunt down opportunities around the world tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 as if i'm right there. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and i'm in total control because i can trade tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 directly online in 12 markets in their local currencies. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i use their global research to get an edge. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 their equity rati
the u.s. -- a new report today says the u.s. is set to surpass saudi arabia in oil output by 2020. but is that really going to help bring prices down here at home? talk about that coming up. the answer may surprise you. >>> also ahead, lockheed martins incoming ceo, just the latest corporate leader ousted because of a sex scandal on the same day the cia chief goes down for the same reason. should both men have kept their jobs, though? we have a debate on that coming up. stay tuned....
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i think out of all of them to me u.s. bank corp is the most stable one. if you had to pick one of the banks for the people playing our home game which do you go with? >> bb&t. i think it is a well managed company. they were off by 5% or so. they had some fundamental issues but got really overplayed here in the down fall. probably 200 to 300 basis points as we come to the conclusion that the fiscal cliff is not going to happen. >> is 23% enough that it makes sense why people are selling off the dividend paying stocks or is that a level that you say on this selloff i am ready to buy? >> so that is a great question and brings in a different area. everybody is saying lops there is weakness in there and under performing the market. that is tax policy reform. that is not happening until next year. the weakness today is unrelated to reform. and i say in the mortgage reach you see the same activity. we don't think the tax structure or code changes for those pieces materially. >> thanks for coming by. we appreciate it. >>> the stocks were once beaten down on fears
i think out of all of them to me u.s. bank corp is the most stable one. if you had to pick one of the banks for the people playing our home game which do you go with? >> bb&t. i think it is a well managed company. they were off by 5% or so. they had some fundamental issues but got really overplayed here in the down fall. probably 200 to 300 basis points as we come to the conclusion that the fiscal cliff is not going to happen. >> is 23% enough that it makes sense why people are...
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that's a horrible time. >> for global markets, u.s. versus the rest of the world, how do you want to be diversified allocation? >> we're united states. remember china's growth is no longer going to be 10%. they're reaccelerating their growth over the last couple of quarters but we think it's a question of 7% to 8%. emerging markets, driven by china, will look different. we favor developed markets, especially the u.s., which happens to be the best house in a crummy neighborhood, if you will, of the global economy. >> defensive stocks, health care, consumer staples and health care. >> global guerrillas, i like that. >> thank you for joining us. heading to the close with a bit of a rally. dow up 38 points, the high of the session. >> what happens in wall street in the two months leading up to election day is historically one of the most accurate predictors who gets elected president? >> remember that number, 1390.84, you'll find out why that's significant coming up. >>> why someone here says the superstorm sandy devastation increasing con
that's a horrible time. >> for global markets, u.s. versus the rest of the world, how do you want to be diversified allocation? >> we're united states. remember china's growth is no longer going to be 10%. they're reaccelerating their growth over the last couple of quarters but we think it's a question of 7% to 8%. emerging markets, driven by china, will look different. we favor developed markets, especially the u.s., which happens to be the best house in a crummy neighborhood, if...
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better than expected data from china, the u.s. helping to give a boost with stocks across the board. and tech, a bright spot in today's session with notable moods. it's interesting, you go from the month of october where tech was the worst performing sector and moved into november and how quickly things changed. >> it felt like the first of the month, i'm not making light of it, i think that's a lot of what's going on. tech clear, microsoft performed well. intel to me, the most interesting one. finally catching a bounce for no apparent reason. here we are again at 1425, give or take, that was support on the way down a couple times. it's resistance on the way up. and here we are right now, my inclination is to stave this move, we'll know more in 12 to 14 hoyers from now. >> the semiconductor up 3%. it's almost as if people forgot about the forecast for the demise of the pc and said the month of november, we're going to go in, they're cheap, they're beaten down, and that's where the value is at this point. >> we've seen a big rotati
better than expected data from china, the u.s. helping to give a boost with stocks across the board. and tech, a bright spot in today's session with notable moods. it's interesting, you go from the month of october where tech was the worst performing sector and moved into november and how quickly things changed. >> it felt like the first of the month, i'm not making light of it, i think that's a lot of what's going on. tech clear, microsoft performed well. intel to me, the most...
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>> well, what it really means is that the u.s. would only have to rely on canada and mexico for its oil imports. and we could really tell opec to seek other markets elsewhere in the world. we would really any longer have to supply them with energy security, with having troops in the middle east or other areas of the world. >> if we get -- let's say 2020 comes, and i hope it will, mayans aside, right, and we have full energy independence, where will the price of oil and gas be? >> well, i think oil and gas prices are still going to go up because world oil demand continues to increase. today we're still sitting at around $3.50 a gallon for gas and about $100 for oil. i'm expecting prices will rise to about $110, $115 over the long term. >> no matter what. so, neshg, inflation aside because prices always go up, we'll have higher prices regardless, right? >> that's my expectation. there's no doubt up. look at the iaea, they say oil demand will rise from about 87 million a barely as day to over 100 million barrel as a day. we have foun
>> well, what it really means is that the u.s. would only have to rely on canada and mexico for its oil imports. and we could really tell opec to seek other markets elsewhere in the world. we would really any longer have to supply them with energy security, with having troops in the middle east or other areas of the world. >> if we get -- let's say 2020 comes, and i hope it will, mayans aside, right, and we have full energy independence, where will the price of oil and gas be?...
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so, you know, with a woman in fourth place in their leadership, with 20 females in the u.s. house versus 58 democrats, is the republican party doing enough of a job to review and promote women? >> well, and you might want to add, there are five female governors in the country, four of which are republicans, doing great jobs out there and very well respected in their states. so what are we doing? i think with cathy mcmorris rodgers, she ran, it's a tough battle and she won and gets the credit but she got men to support her. there is a sense in the republican party tom price is a good man, she's a terrific lady, but maybe it would be wiser for her to have that position. >> a better messenger. >> a better messenger is a perfect way to put it so in a sense, it's the party coming together realizing we need to make certain these women are prominently displayed, out there helping us send a message to this country that we represent both men and women. >> avis, your thoughts. the burden on the republican party from where i sit is to get more women in the house, more women in the sena
so, you know, with a woman in fourth place in their leadership, with 20 females in the u.s. house versus 58 democrats, is the republican party doing enough of a job to review and promote women? >> well, and you might want to add, there are five female governors in the country, four of which are republicans, doing great jobs out there and very well respected in their states. so what are we doing? i think with cathy mcmorris rodgers, she ran, it's a tough battle and she won and gets the...
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even if the u.s. growth numbers are stronger, they might be stronger only because they're heading off the fiscal cliff. there's still more fiscal tightening to do. >> i'm just trying to get a reasonable trip to greece here. you're con founding my hopes. but thanks very much for stopping by. and i had dree adrian reminding us that the 1.30 level may be around to stay. >>> coming up a little later, what toys will kids be badgering parents for this christmas? beccy and geoff visited the fair to find out. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> welcome back. japan has finally gotten a bit of a reprieve. here are the details from korea. >> a raft of economic data out, some of it surprising toward the up side. industrial output recovering to 1.8% versus expectations of a fall of 2.2%. things a
even if the u.s. growth numbers are stronger, they might be stronger only because they're heading off the fiscal cliff. there's still more fiscal tightening to do. >> i'm just trying to get a reasonable trip to greece here. you're con founding my hopes. but thanks very much for stopping by. and i had dree adrian reminding us that the 1.30 level may be around to stay. >>> coming up a little later, what toys will kids be badgering parents for this christmas? beccy and geoff visited...
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a lot of thatoming from the u.s. what all of this means in terms of the global energy trade is that we will see a shift in terms of the diversification and build up in supply. we will have a change in terms of where the middle east oil is going, as well. 90% of that is expected to go to asia by 2035. >> i'm curious what the temperature on the floor was on this report. do people buy this? >> a lot of traders say it is already priced in when you look all the way out to 2017 and 2020 we are seeing that priced in and the divergence that you are seeing between crude highlights the fact that there is a lot of focus in how much supply we have here in the u.s. this is just a confirmation of @ñat fact. >> it is so good to have you today because we are kicking off the new segment called fast or fiction where we take something like this report and see if you guys are buying it. >> i'm not buying it because tla far out in the future. we will be energy independent far faster than the iea thinks it will happen. i think in north a
a lot of thatoming from the u.s. what all of this means in terms of the global energy trade is that we will see a shift in terms of the diversification and build up in supply. we will have a change in terms of where the middle east oil is going, as well. 90% of that is expected to go to asia by 2035. >> i'm curious what the temperature on the floor was on this report. do people buy this? >> a lot of traders say it is already priced in when you look all the way out to 2017 and 2020...
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can the u.s. takes the steps to avoid the fiscal cliff? stay tuned. >>> sick of paying up at the pump? i have a guy with a solution. plus it's not just the stock market, tax increases and the budget cuts of the fiscal cliff that could hit your wallet in a big way. tonight i'm helping you understand what's at stake. "mad money" is coming up next. if you are one of the millions of men who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and application sites between these products differ. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a child, or, signs in a woman which may include changes in bod
can the u.s. takes the steps to avoid the fiscal cliff? stay tuned. >>> sick of paying up at the pump? i have a guy with a solution. plus it's not just the stock market, tax increases and the budget cuts of the fiscal cliff that could hit your wallet in a big way. tonight i'm helping you understand what's at stake. "mad money" is coming up next. if you are one of the millions of men who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat...
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if you're betting against u.s. growth, betting against -- or betting there will be a huge issues in the coming years on these -- on the deficit issue, you may want to keep it off the table. >>> there's a third area there. i don't talk to anybody, steve or our guest, who doesn't think the u.s. can easily ramp up growth. the real discussion i don't think is the true u.s. economy. i thinkist the moguling being throw in front of it, our self-inflected issues, you know, last time around we sequestration. are we going to have sequestration 2? of course we'll put a band-aid, but we need leverage to have reform predicated to surrender on the band-aid. >>> we've got to go, guys. i've got to go with this. we've got to move on. this is the last hour of trading, so we've got to move here. thank you for your thoughts today. steve, thank you, you're voting on a committee of politicians. i find hope in that somehow. >> yeah. you're in the hopeful camp. >> hoping at the last moment they will do the right thing. >> was that a pig t
if you're betting against u.s. growth, betting against -- or betting there will be a huge issues in the coming years on these -- on the deficit issue, you may want to keep it off the table. >>> there's a third area there. i don't talk to anybody, steve or our guest, who doesn't think the u.s. can easily ramp up growth. the real discussion i don't think is the true u.s. economy. i thinkist the moguling being throw in front of it, our self-inflected issues, you know, last time around we...
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the judge of the u.s. bankruptcy court will preside over a mediation between hostess lawyers and bakers union which had previously turned down a deal. tomorrow's mediation is private. that's important because like the public hearing today, of course, everyone wants to satisfy those who are watching and the vested interest at hand. this way they'll hopefully be able to put some concessions on the table without worry being that public perception. if that mediation does not resu result, the hearing that was going on today for the liquidation, that will resume wednesday at 11 a.m. if, in fact, they cannot reach an agreement tomorrow. for the meantime, a lot of people have been in the parlor game of speculating about whether a buyer will come to the fore. many companies have voiced they wouldn't step in before seeing the outcome of whether the company would be liquidating. in that case pick off the assets. we have heard sun capital potentially interested in a deal, that would be involving the unions. so that mi
the judge of the u.s. bankruptcy court will preside over a mediation between hostess lawyers and bakers union which had previously turned down a deal. tomorrow's mediation is private. that's important because like the public hearing today, of course, everyone wants to satisfy those who are watching and the vested interest at hand. this way they'll hopefully be able to put some concessions on the table without worry being that public perception. if that mediation does not resu result, the...
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. $9 billion flowed out of u.s. equities last week, the biggest outflow this year matched only by the week before the presidential election. so is this rational behavior? or perhaps a lost opportunity here? and it's important to see where the inflows were too. the biggest inflows were to money market funds. and that is -- >> that's rash -- >> yeah, just go to cash. i'm cashing out. >> they may be costing you money to put your money in the mutual funds. and this is the problem because monetary policy has gotten in the way of fiscal policy. and in fact, if you look at today's market. today was all about monetary policy reversing course of the s&p when, in fact, all we should be talking about is fiscal policy and we can't get anything done. >> doesn't it stand to the point of how desperate people are to hold on to their cash? it mean, we've seen this. there's always a reason to wait, always a reason to stop trading, always a reason to move to the sidelines. and you keep getting them time after time after time. you have
. $9 billion flowed out of u.s. equities last week, the biggest outflow this year matched only by the week before the presidential election. so is this rational behavior? or perhaps a lost opportunity here? and it's important to see where the inflows were too. the biggest inflows were to money market funds. and that is -- >> that's rash -- >> yeah, just go to cash. i'm cashing out. >> they may be costing you money to put your money in the mutual funds. and this is the problem...
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>> i think in general if your catalyst is the u.s. government you should be generally freaking out. free market is not one that hangs on every whim and word of harry reid. at the end of the day there are multiple factors at work here. china hit a new low. we will talk about these things but i think it is multiple factors a at work beyond what somebody in washington says. >> this reminds me of when we had the european crisis or in 2008 when there was the vote on the tarp. i don't think we should overreact to this. if i learned anything from schoolhouse rock making a bill is like sausage making. you will have imaginations going on. >> i don't think they made that comparison on school house rock. >> he was watching a different schoolhouse rock. >> the jack black "schoolhouse rock." >> the fiscal cliff is just a great headline but the tip of the iceberg of what is really ailing or what could potentially ail this market in weeks to come. we are within the whisper of a four-year high. europe is a mess and the data in the states has been mediocre at best. the fiscal cliff is an easy thing
>> i think in general if your catalyst is the u.s. government you should be generally freaking out. free market is not one that hangs on every whim and word of harry reid. at the end of the day there are multiple factors at work here. china hit a new low. we will talk about these things but i think it is multiple factors a at work beyond what somebody in washington says. >> this reminds me of when we had the european crisis or in 2008 when there was the vote on the tarp. i don't...
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the u.s. and china. there are american brands everywhere. companies like mcdone olds are sinking their teeth into the china market. china is one of the biggest markets outside the u.s. in return mcdonald's hires thousands chinese. china is become abouting a major destination for american goods. but with the global economy struggling, tensions between the two major trading partners have been rising over everything from the u.s.'s growing security presence in the region to china's currency and trade. >> i'm a little pessimistic because in the kind of world we live in where there's a struggle for global demand, that struggle will show up in the trade area. >> reporter: rhetoric about china flared on on the campaign trail with barack obama promising to stand up to china as he heads into his second term. >> i set up a trade task force to go after cheaters. that's why we brought more cases than the previous administration in two terms. >> reporter: cases for example over auto parts and solar panels.
the u.s. and china. there are american brands everywhere. companies like mcdone olds are sinking their teeth into the china market. china is one of the biggest markets outside the u.s. in return mcdonald's hires thousands chinese. china is become abouting a major destination for american goods. but with the global economy struggling, tensions between the two major trading partners have been rising over everything from the u.s.'s growing security presence in the region to china's currency and...
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he said why would i go to the u.s. embassy. the u.s. embassy said to me, i don't know that we would play a role here. i don't know that we have anything to do. if he's been asked for questioning, he should go in. >> robert frank and producer jeff pullman, thank you so much. the interview, if you missed it or just joining us, the full interview will be up on cnbc.com. john mcafee, whatever you think of him, in a very difficult situation in the country of belize right now. robert, thank you so much. >>> when we come back, we're going to give you more on the updated negotiations around the fiscal cliff. could we get a resolution soon? will the markets bounce back if we do? what's going to happen with hostess? is the company really done? there's a lot more to do here on "street signs." mandy's on "closing bell" today. you're stuck with me. back right after this. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. make sure the news keeps coming
he said why would i go to the u.s. embassy. the u.s. embassy said to me, i don't know that we would play a role here. i don't know that we have anything to do. if he's been asked for questioning, he should go in. >> robert frank and producer jeff pullman, thank you so much. the interview, if you missed it or just joining us, the full interview will be up on cnbc.com. john mcafee, whatever you think of him, in a very difficult situation in the country of belize right now. robert, thank you...
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incidently, any one of them who would like to write a check to the u.s. government is free to do so. go ahead. neil: define patriotism by how much you give the government. >> at think it's nonsense. what does that have to do with anything? neil: over reading posts he election what they're either mandate or victory means? >> i think there overeating what their mandate is. neil: how you define their mandate to act a lot of people think that, well, they do agree with at least one part that the rich should pay more. usually is the people who are not. but beyond that, push for more spending for stimulus, and leaving entitlements alone, leaving spending itself alone. >> essentially what they won was a squeaker. based on some, whenever it is, five counties across the united states. in my opinion did they win, of course. but they have no mandate. they ought to figure out a way to try to keep all of the people that our citizens in the people who pay txes happy. neil: have you resign yourself to you will have to pay more taxes. >> i have not. i have not. neil: i th
incidently, any one of them who would like to write a check to the u.s. government is free to do so. go ahead. neil: define patriotism by how much you give the government. >> at think it's nonsense. what does that have to do with anything? neil: over reading posts he election what they're either mandate or victory means? >> i think there overeating what their mandate is. neil: how you define their mandate to act a lot of people think that, well, they do agree with at least one part...
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even the u.s. economy alone is two economies right now. 80% of people never feel we came out of the recession because they peaked in their spending. their house is under water. 20% of people are college educated. very low unemployment rates. they benefitted from qe and the markets rising back. they peak in their 50s instead of mid-40s. the wealthier part of our economy is due to tailor off. the demographics in europe just go off a cliff for many, many years to come. yes, you can have nice little things in the economy and stimulus, but you can't get older people to spend money, and europe has the worst problems because they have the worst demographic. >> listen. the economist in britain taught us that demographics do not have a very strong predictive value, particularly when it comes to markets. in 1998, harry wrote a book saying the dow was going to 35,000. in 2009, he wrote about the great depression that was ahead, and the s&p has gone up 110% off the lows. the economy has gone to new highs in gd
even the u.s. economy alone is two economies right now. 80% of people never feel we came out of the recession because they peaked in their spending. their house is under water. 20% of people are college educated. very low unemployment rates. they benefitted from qe and the markets rising back. they peak in their 50s instead of mid-40s. the wealthier part of our economy is due to tailor off. the demographics in europe just go off a cliff for many, many years to come. yes, you can have nice...
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fitch saying the u.s. needs to fix that debt threat and moody's says it's going to wait before taking any action and maintain its negative outlook on the u.s. economy. one thing is for sure. the stock market is taking the fiscal cliff very seriously. the blue chip average is off the lows but still down sharply at one time today, the dow was down about 369 points. first time we've seen that big of a decline since november 21st of last year. off the lows rights now, the dow down 260 points at 12,985. the nasdaq is down 63 points, a more than 2% decline at 2947. the s&p at this hour is down 28 points right at 1400. let's break down what's behind today's dramatic decline in stocks in today's "closing bell" exchange. we welcome back michael pento, kwint tatro, jeff sika, and our own rick santelli. quint, you believe the market was going to go down either way. why? >> i do. i think this was long overdue. we have been propped up with some incertauncertainty. it's kept the market saying, are we going to get a chan
fitch saying the u.s. needs to fix that debt threat and moody's says it's going to wait before taking any action and maintain its negative outlook on the u.s. economy. one thing is for sure. the stock market is taking the fiscal cliff very seriously. the blue chip average is off the lows but still down sharply at one time today, the dow was down about 369 points. first time we've seen that big of a decline since november 21st of last year. off the lows rights now, the dow down 260 points at...
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my guess is going forward this is the opportunity for europe to outshine the u.s. not that the u.s. will be a bad place to be, but incrementally, i think europe really looks good post-election. >> europe is going to outshine the u.s., huh? >> only because people are expecting such terrible things out of europe that when you expect terrible and you get, you know, so-so, that's an upside surprise any way you look at it. >> all right. we'll leave it there. gentlemen, thank you very much. we'll keep watching both those stories. let's get to john fort. he just spoke with the qualcomm ceo on the heels of their earnings report. let's find out what he has to say. john, over to you. >> maria, you already mentioned the headline numbers. i want to focus on guidance and a bit of color. that might change the way people are thinking about some elements of technology, and particularly the smart phone market. i want to talk about guidance. wall street was looking in the coming quarter -- i guess the current quarter now, for revenue of around $5.3 billion. non-gap eps of around $1. what qualcomm has
my guess is going forward this is the opportunity for europe to outshine the u.s. not that the u.s. will be a bad place to be, but incrementally, i think europe really looks good post-election. >> europe is going to outshine the u.s., huh? >> only because people are expecting such terrible things out of europe that when you expect terrible and you get, you know, so-so, that's an upside surprise any way you look at it. >> all right. we'll leave it there. gentlemen, thank you...
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. >>> clicks and profits, u.s. consumers are expected to spend at least $1.5 billion on this cyber monday. we'll run through the cyber winners and losers next. >>> here's another number. $5 billion, that's how much americans are expected to spend on christmas gifts for their pets this year. we'll talk to petsmart ceo in a cnbc exclusive about his company's share of this huge holiday booty coming up. >>> plus, flu shot or your job? 150 employees getting canned the day before thanksgiving for refusing to get flu shots. is that legal? stay with us. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfect
. >>> clicks and profits, u.s. consumers are expected to spend at least $1.5 billion on this cyber monday. we'll run through the cyber winners and losers next. >>> here's another number. $5 billion, that's how much americans are expected to spend on christmas gifts for their pets this year. we'll talk to petsmart ceo in a cnbc exclusive about his company's share of this huge holiday booty coming up. >>> plus, flu shot or your job? 150 employees getting canned the day...
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. >>> hurricane sandy will go down as one of the costliest storms in u.s. history. what does it mean for insurance stocks? morgan stanley is cutting its earnings by an average of 26%. after sandy. so stephanie link, if you have insur insured losses, some of the numbers hitting 50 billion could go higher. how are you thinking about the space today? >> there are some companies that are going to fair better. something like an aig which has surplus insurance, they have a better pricing power, so they can quickly raise prices, where as an all-state or travelers won't be able to price as aggressively. in terms of aig, the reason we own it, this is obviously a horrible situation, but i think it will be contained somewhat in the fourth quarter, maybe the first. it's really cleaned up its balance sheet and focusing on two business lines. casualty and life. i think the life business will start to see some momentum as he they get more distribution. i think they use the weakness to buy when the stock is trading at .6 times book value. >> mike murphy, you could see a bit of an e
. >>> hurricane sandy will go down as one of the costliest storms in u.s. history. what does it mean for insurance stocks? morgan stanley is cutting its earnings by an average of 26%. after sandy. so stephanie link, if you have insur insured losses, some of the numbers hitting 50 billion could go higher. how are you thinking about the space today? >> there are some companies that are going to fair better. something like an aig which has surplus insurance, they have a better...
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it's very important for housing in the u.s. economy and i think that's what's going to offset the fiscal drag. it really is the global economy, and investment trading and trade. some improvement in skboexport . some things to be encouraged about at least in the sense of wee feel comfortable. 103 dollars and $108 to $110. >> if the lame duck does a can kick, does that force do you refocus on your price target. >> if this leads to see question station and is not done el wantly, it's very likely we're going to get a rating downgrade. i just don't think the equity market is going to react as adversely as it did august of it happens. let's soo write headache out and thi think. >> got it. david, thanks so much. >> my pleasure. >> david bianco, chief strategist at deutsche bank. >>> breaking news and our very own mair thompson is on the floor with the stock exchange. ma mary? >> there's a key change way tojt bring to our investors or viewers' attention. this year they're providing a little bit of konk for those submitting new capital
it's very important for housing in the u.s. economy and i think that's what's going to offset the fiscal drag. it really is the global economy, and investment trading and trade. some improvement in skboexport . some things to be encouraged about at least in the sense of wee feel comfortable. 103 dollars and $108 to $110. >> if the lame duck does a can kick, does that force do you refocus on your price target. >> if this leads to see question station and is not done el wantly, it's...
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category growth in the u.s. is picking up, however. we saw about almost 1.5% to 2% category growth in the u.s. that's a big reversal from where it was two years ago where it was down 2%. we're starting to see the consumer stabilize in the u.s. we're certainly seeing better growth in latin america in particular. >> let me ask you about the implications of hurricane sandy. first off, these gas lines in new york. the story has been just horrible with people unable to get gasoline because these gas stations do not have power. has this impacted your business? >> it hasn't yet, maria. we have one major manufacturing facility in the path of the storm. that was in aberdeen, maryland. our folk there is had the plant shut down for about 24 hours from midday monday to midday tuesday. big issue has been getting truckers. the rail hasn't been shut down. i'd say by today we're getting fairly back to normal. our folks did a pretty good job of building inventory before the storm hit. so we only think we're down by 100 to 200,000 cases where we would h
category growth in the u.s. is picking up, however. we saw about almost 1.5% to 2% category growth in the u.s. that's a big reversal from where it was two years ago where it was down 2%. we're starting to see the consumer stabilize in the u.s. we're certainly seeing better growth in latin america in particular. >> let me ask you about the implications of hurricane sandy. first off, these gas lines in new york. the story has been just horrible with people unable to get gasoline because...
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they're saying their rating on u.s. debt is likely to be maintained until the outlook of negotiations is clear. now fitch, they're likely to review their rating of u.s. debt in late 2013. late 2013. standard & poors poor's is saying it is a 1 in 3 chance of a downgrade over the coming two years. what do the ratings agencies want to see in order to avoid those kinds of downgrades? what they're saying is laid out specifically in their reports. moody's saying they want to see specific policies that produce a stabilization. they want a downward federal debt to gdp trend. fitch says they want an agreement on med yum term deficit reduction in 2013. standard and poor's is saying a medium term fiscal plan toward reducing general government debt. if you're an investor worried about these ratings agencies, it is very clear here that you are going to know the outcome of the fiscal cliff negotiations here in washington before these ratings agencies make a move to downgrade u.s. debt. they are going to wait to see what happens in th
they're saying their rating on u.s. debt is likely to be maintained until the outlook of negotiations is clear. now fitch, they're likely to review their rating of u.s. debt in late 2013. late 2013. standard & poors poor's is saying it is a 1 in 3 chance of a downgrade over the coming two years. what do the ratings agencies want to see in order to avoid those kinds of downgrades? what they're saying is laid out specifically in their reports. moody's saying they want to see specific policies...
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>> this is tightly organized theaters just like conventions are here in the u.s. no party hats or streamers or bloorngs but it's really a similar show for the media. the real negotiations happen behind closed doors and most of them as much as a month or more than a month ago. in china, the thing to know is that decisions like these are made by consensus among a group of people that number in the hundreds and not in the single digit which is means it's an average of a bunch of opinions which means it's quite stable relative to a personality-driven election like in the u.s. there are three factions in play in china right now. the the hu and wen factions worked through the provinces to become leaders and they're the reformers. the second group is the jiang zemin group and jiang was the president before hu who left in 2002. he was widely viewed that on his death bed he's made a resurgence and this convention is basically the jiang zemin crowd known as the shanghai gang in china taking over the china. the children of the original revolutionary leaders and xi is one of
>> this is tightly organized theaters just like conventions are here in the u.s. no party hats or streamers or bloorngs but it's really a similar show for the media. the real negotiations happen behind closed doors and most of them as much as a month or more than a month ago. in china, the thing to know is that decisions like these are made by consensus among a group of people that number in the hundreds and not in the single digit which is means it's an average of a bunch of opinions...
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. >>> if congress drifts u.s. economy off the fiscal cliff, the department of education's 2013 budget will be cut by over $4 billion with $256 million cut from the federal student aid program. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. it's just common sense. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire ou
. >>> if congress drifts u.s. economy off the fiscal cliff, the department of education's 2013 budget will be cut by over $4 billion with $256 million cut from the federal student aid program. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good...
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u.s. airways up 192%. not entirely because of the business but more because of the speculation. >> thanks so much. >> the latest on your travel for the weekend. >>> and finally my observation on the warning bernanke issued to america yesterday. our economy might want to give thanks to the fed when congress shirked its responsibilities. i was happy to be at the new york economic club lunch where bernanke spoke. he reaffirmed that the recovery continued to grow at a slow pace and that the unemployment story remains high and says housing has been improving. we saw zillow saying october saw the largest monthly gain for home prices in more than seven years but the real fireworks happened when a question came up about the fiscal cliff. >> in the worst case scenario where the economy goes off the broad fiscal cliff i don't think the fed has the tools to offset that. >> and those words sent the markets lower yesterday and probably helped to contribute to tempt today. my take is the chairman is worried. for years h
u.s. airways up 192%. not entirely because of the business but more because of the speculation. >> thanks so much. >> the latest on your travel for the weekend. >>> and finally my observation on the warning bernanke issued to america yesterday. our economy might want to give thanks to the fed when congress shirked its responsibilities. i was happy to be at the new york economic club lunch where bernanke spoke. he reaffirmed that the recovery continued to grow at a slow pace...
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i even think the u.s. economy is getting cheaper. this big reduction is making it a little more exciting. >> it can be health care versus defense stocks. you know, one way or the other depending on the fiscal cliff. you ready to buy either of those? >> i think at this point, if you go over the fiscal cliff, those sectors will be very exciting. one area that i'm really looking at is cyclical versus defensive. i like the cyclicals. >> all right, gentlemen. thank you very much. it's the 65th anniversary for the toys for tots campaign by the m
i even think the u.s. economy is getting cheaper. this big reduction is making it a little more exciting. >> it can be health care versus defense stocks. you know, one way or the other depending on the fiscal cliff. you ready to buy either of those? >> i think at this point, if you go over the fiscal cliff, those sectors will be very exciting. one area that i'm really looking at is cyclical versus defensive. i like the cyclicals. >> all right, gentlemen. thank you very much....